Sunday, December 28, 2014

Is It Unknown To Krishnamurti Due To Missing Attributes Plus Ignorance? Yes.



When Krishnamurti came to Thoughtless state, due to great struggle he underwent, having doubt, fear, insecurity and sufferings, etc., and when Thoughts persistently arose, be it due to Awareness of neutral thing such as tree, door, bird or flower, and after abandoning any hope for any escape from thinking. Then K decided that 'Thoughtless' is Pathless. That is one comes to it without any method or any practice of mediation or any attempt involving expectation and desire.

Krishnamurti came to to this conclusion, that one comes to Thoughtless without any Path, is erroneous, because he could not detect all the mental attributes which constitutes the mind, as those attributes were not functional in Krishnamurti's Mind, having Gaps, Divisions, Fragmentations. Since he could not Meditate due to this fragmentation, which if he tried, would further perpetuate the Fragmentation, instead of dissolving the Division, increasing the sufferings. When one meditates successfully, he would go deeper into the mind and detect all the mind attributes as well as defilements of the mind, and would remove the defilements to be free from the sufferings and in that process transcend the mental attributes one by one to go deeper, understating the functions of each attributes.

Since Krishnamurti did not speak about 'cognitions' and other attributes of conscious mind, it is evident he did not detect them, not because his attentiveness failed to detect, but due to the fact, that they were absent from his mind, thus contributing to the Gaps, hence Division. Failing to meditate deeply due to this Gaps, he never was able to detect subconscious attributes of the mind, which can be only detected by one who have Samadi in meditation, such as 'Intentions' of the subconscious.

So Krishnamurti was not aware of the Path he went through to come to the 'Thoughtless'. This 'Thoughtless' is an Unknown for K, because:

A. Krishnamurti did not know, how did he come to the Unknown or Thoughtless, in the first instance, due to the Gaps in his mind, hence it is Unknown.

B. Secondly, Krishnamurti did not know that meditators come to this 'Thoughtless' state, which according to Buddhism is the Second Samadi, and those attributes of the 2nd Samadi is explained and its outcomes are also well explained, but the one who comes to that state, only can understand them.

C. Even in his 'Thoughtless' state, since many mind attributes were missing, he could not fully understand the 'Thoughtless' state, and the 'Thoughtless' state did not constitute all attributes it should have.

But in 'Second Samadi' state of mind absorption, only the 'Thoughts' are absent, hence one who comes to that state by meditation having a Whole mind, but not a Non-Fragmented mind, is constantly aware of the all the mind attributes which constitutes, Second Samadi state.
At this 'Thoughtless' state there is Love, which is known as Maithree plus Karuna, which is not lustful love. Krishnamurti says there is love when one comes to 'Thoughtless', but clearly fails to say that it is not lustful love, fails to indicate that is is not a Relationship, but says it it not directed to a particular person, where K is correct. But then Krishnamurti failed to realize that it is no more an Unknown, as it can be explained, as he did, showing one attribute of Unknown, that is Love. He was also unaware, and not knowledgeable about this 'Thoughtless' state of Second Samadi, being explained already.

Though Krishnamurti says that this 'Thoughtless' state is an Unknown state. But it is not so from his point of view itself, as he says there is Love in this state, thus making it a Known things as per 'Second Samadi'. Then he says there is Peace, indicating that there is no sufferings, which also accords with the 'Second Samadi', still making this Unknown, Thoughtless state, a more of a Known thing, adding a second attribute to the Unknown. Only Krishnamurti's ignorance of this 'Second Samadi', which explained elsewhere, made him to conclude that the 'Thoughtless' state as an Unknown thing plus the two attributes of it, imagining his listing of two attributes of the Unknown, that is Love and Peace, are also to be unknown things to his listeners, thus for Listeners of Krishnamurti, both the 'Thoughtless' state plus its two attributes explained by K, i.e. Love and Peace, also are Unknown things, Making the entire thing an Unknown. How ignorantly Krishanmurti concluded, is astonishing.

Since there were missing mind functions in Krishnamurti, he only was able to feel Peace and Love in this 'Thoughtless' state of the Known, which was Unknown only to Krishnamurti. But in 'Second Samadi', there are Happiness and Joy in addition to Love and Peace. Krishnamurti did not feel Happiness and Joy due to some missing attributes of the Mind as well as Body, it is evident. Then there is 'Poise and Balance' in the Awareness, when one comes to this 'Thoughtless' state, which Krishnamurti did not explain as an attributes of the same, due to the missing mind function of 'Cognition'.

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